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Von Der Salana (Germany)
 
Some Remarks about Breeding of Apricot and Red Poodles

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Our poodle kennel “von der Salana” exists since 1980. We are breeding apricot Miniature, Dwarf and Toy Poodles.

 

In 1988 we got our first red poodle. That was the 2 years old Miniature male “Rosaline’s Burning Fire“, bred in the USA. He was the first red poodle in the DDR.  We bred this male with 3 Miniature Females from our own breeding and got puppies in red and apricot.

 

From the breeding “Rosaline’s Burning Fire“ x “Eirene von der Salana“ we kept the red male “Pumuckl von der Salana“ (31.12.1988).

 

From the breeding ”Rosaline’s Burning Fire“ x “Lilli-Marlen von der Salana“  we kept the red female “Queen in red von der Salana“ (20.10.1989).

 

From the breeding “Rosaline’s Burning Fire“ x “Monalisa von der Salana“ (02.01.1990) we gave the red females to breeders in Moskow: “Red Radiance von der Salana“ to Galina Alexejewa and „Red Revolution von der Salana“ to Pawel Iwanow.

 

From the breeding “Rosaline’s Burning Fire“ x “Hattrice von der Salana“ the red male “Mandarin von Engelblick“ also came to Russia to Georgi Baklushin.

 

“Rosaline’s Burning Fire“was bred in the years 1989/ 90 to bitches from Moscow (Breeders: Iwanow, Alexejewa, Tschukajewa, Wanagas), which also produces red puppies.

(s. Shuko, J.  „Kleinpudel in roter Farbe“;  Alexejewa, G. „Zwergpudel in roter Farbe“ in „Pudeli Rossii“, Moskau 1995)

 

When I had once more the chance to judge the Poodles on a show in Moscow in 1995, I was extraordinary impressed and emotional affected, how many beautiful red and apricot children and grandchildren are out of this special male.

We were always keen to get the red color in the breeding but it was at all times difficult for us, to find adequate (red) males for our bitches. That means, we had to study the pedigrees of potential stud dogs exactly to get some indices of red “genes”.

 

We bred our bitch “Queen in red von der Salana“ (Dwarf) amongst others with the male “Champagne D’Or Valentino“. From this litter we kept the red female “Undine Burning Fire von der Salana“ (04.05.1996).

 

We bred this bitch with “Solnes An Golden Orrange“. From this breeding we kept in 2002 the Dwarf male “Xerxes X-tra Edition von der Salana“ and the Toy female ”Xilimee X-tra Edition von der Salana“. Both dogs were really intensive in their red color till they are 2 years. The bitch Xilimee is nowadays a bit lighter and is accepted on shows without any problems as dark apricot. The male Xerxes is normal apricot today. Both dogs are shown very successful on shows (Xilimee is German Champion VDH + VDP; Xerxes is International Champion, Multichampion and European Winner).

 

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Rosalines Burning Fire, 2 Years old

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Pumuckl v.d. Salana, 1 Year old

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Yarica v.d. Salana, 1 ½ Year old

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Puppies from Xerxes, kennel Ze Zlute Mimozy (CZ), 3 Months old

From the repeated breeding “Undine Burning Fire von der Salana“ x “Solnes An Golden Orrange“ we kept in 2003 the female “Yes I’m Yarica von der Salana“. This bitch is very dark red. It is notable, that the at the beginning black pigment of the nose after the first year  heavily lightened. With special feed the nose pigment became darker but it didn’t become black. This is a one-time problem in our breeding.

 

This bitch was also shown as an apricot (!) Dwarf on shows. Some judges gave her only a “very good”, particularly because of her color and/or because of the lightened nose pigment. From other judges, looking more on the preferences of this bitch, her elegant Dwarf type which made her presenting herself very well in the show ring, she got “excellent” estimations including Res. CACIB and BOB.

 

With our Toy bitch ”Xilimee” we bred in 2005 a litter. Father of this puppies is an apricot male from Australia, whose pedigree contained diverse red ancestors, to some extent from USA-Lines and to some extent going back to “Solnes”.  The 4 puppies from this litter are 3 month now. All 4 puppies have the same intensity of coat color, but are more apricot than red. We will be able to watch the development of this litter because of all 3 males are reserved for show people in Germany, Russia and Sweden. The female puppy we keep for ourselves.

 

Some comments about the preservation of the red color at the elder age

 

We can not realise at any of our red poodles, that the coat in elder age get blunt or get a muddy color, as often is argued.

 

Our male “Pumuckl von der Salana“ (1988-2003) was apricot from his 6th year of life.  The male “Rosaline’s Burning Fire” was 16 ½  years old and had also in his later years a beautiful medium apricot color.

 

Our now 16 years old bitch “Queen in red von der Salana“ got in the last 3 years very fine and flimsy coat. But the color is still a beautiful apricot and better than the color of some young apricot poodles.

 

The bitch “Undine Burning Fire von der Salana“ is now 9 years old. Her coat could even now be considered as red, at least dark apricot.

 

Summary

 

During many years we breed specfically apricot and red poodles we want to say something about attractiveness of the color for the buyers, because most puppies are sold as pet dogs.

 

We have the experience that puppy buyers, who can pick a puppy out of the litter, prefer that ones with the deepest color. Otherwise passionate show people prefer apricot puppies, because they are frightened to have fewer chances with a dark (red) puppy in shows.

 

Since the last 1-2 years we recognize, that also show people explicitly want to get a puppy with “stronger” or “dark” apricot color.

 

About the breeding we can (also in our property as judges) say that because of the red X apricot breedings in the last 10-15 years there is generally an improvement of the color apricot in the whole population to register (and last but not least the body of the apricot poodle altogether is better now).

 

Regarding the shows (in Europe) it is possible to state, that an apricot poodle (like brown or silver) normally don’t get the same attractivity, that a black or white poodle only because of the optical effect of the color emanate. We know that and we have to accept this.

 

But we are convinced that a poodle with the illuminating power of the red (red-apricot / dark apricot) coat color is absolutely attractive for many people – if that dog wouldn’t be considered as exotic or excommunicated by the present standard.

 

Angelika and Dr. Axel Rudolph

Kennel „von der Salana“

 

 

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Xerxes and Xilimee v.d. Salana, 1Year old

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Xerxes and Xilimee, 2 ½ Years old

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Xerxes, 3 Years old

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